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PEACHES IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS SCAM. I WRONGLY ACCUSED HER AND SHE IS INNOCENT. THJIS WAS SOLELY M,Y MISTAKE AND PEACHES IS FULLY INNOCENT.

We all have had challenges in our life or else you would not be a member on the forum right now. Unfortunately, I need to make you aware of the greatest challenge this forum has ever been through.


The forum has been focused almost exclusively as of late on the condition of one of our members. This comes only months after the sudden death of another of our members, Lynn2. Unfortunately there is a link here.


There is no easy way to say this so I am just going to say it straight. Recent evidence has come to our intention and has been investigated that has confirmed that Lynn2 /Muddin' Gal/ and some other accounts all belong to the same person. We have all been conned by a hoax perpetrated by a very selfish and uncaring person. This was not right and we will continue to see what we can do about the situation. The individual who has done all of this is known and we will continue to weigh our options as to what can be done about this situation.

On behalf of the forum, let me be the first to apologize for this circumstance. It has really pained me to learn about this and I fell terrible that you all are affected by this just as I am ( or likely even more than I am). Please do not feel embarrassed for being mislead. Peaches did not do her posts as a participant in the hoax but rather as a victim like all of us. I unfortunately know many of you worried and thought a lot about these members and it is sad for all of us to learn that someone manipulated our trust and our feelings. This is the internet where we are all anonymous to some degree unfortunately and this is just another reminder of this fact.

Feel free to contact us and to speak about your feelings over this here. This is not fair for anyone of us to go through, so hopefully we can get through this by supporting each other.

I apologize again to each and every one of you and hope that you do not let the actions of one sorry person ruin all the positive things that this place is and can be.

p.s. please watch the language as this is a public forum.
 
I hate that our forum was tricked like this. I was so mad to find out that MG was just a hoax that I couldn't stop thinking about it. I've been praying and grieving for MG since her thread was started and I've taken time out of my life to pray for her.

Now let us all get back to making this forum the best Crohn's/IBD forum on the internet.

Jeff
 
This really sickens me. I am extremely disturbed to know that someone would go to such lengths. And for what purpose? What does one get out of this?

I too worried constantly and lived for the updates on MG.
 
This really pisses me off. I would come here daily and be afraid to open up the thread, dreading that the worst has happened to, what we all believed to be, and outstanding person.
How sick can this person be to do this to us all?????
 
I don't know if we will ever be able to relate to why someone would want to do this. Attention?

This really is sickening an was worse as we got deeper and deeper into the investigation.
 
I guess I just don't understand it. I really don't. It just makes me sick to think that for people who were large parts of the forum to be this desceptive. Did this person have other names or just lynn2, Muddin Gal?
 
Thank you, Mike for letting us know. I'm sure you dreaded having to type out this post for all to read.

Secondly, all I'm going to say is I have never in my entire life have been so disgusted to be a part of the human race as I am right now. I'll leave it at that...
 
I can't be the only one who feels both furious and at the same time, duped and humiliated. I normally get all intuitions signaling when something like this is being perpetrated, but certain elements of this fraud were kosher and red flags didn't go up...even when some things weren't jiving, there were PM's and such that did. What kind of narcissistic individual gets a high from this type of s**t?!?!

I really don't know what else to say, except sheer anger is felt.
 
i am reeling from it all. we were all taken in - she abused our trust and our compassion, and turned it into some sort of evil game. once again, as has happened many times in my life, it's a stark reminder that we should follow our hunches, trust our gut feelings, and act on it, not shrug the hunches off - there were things about the whole MG episode that raised eyebrows... but i guess we were all too upset by it all to really be suspicious.

guys, i am so sorry you've all been dragged through this trauma. all of us staff are here for you and will do our very best to support you in getting over this... post in here if you want to vent, or pm us if you'd like a personal response. it's time to rekindle the lovely warm & caring atmosphere on this forum, and we can all help each other achieve that.
 
misscris said:
Did this person have other names or just lynn2, Muddin Gal?
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The other accounts either had no posts or next to no posts based on our understanding./
 
Thank you Mike for clarifying that. I'm sure everybody is now looking around wondering who else this person was and how else they duped us.
 
I felt so much concern for MG. What do they get by duping a bunch of genuine people with a very real diease. It has to be for sympathy.

My CD is mine and I want to be able to discuss things with others that have CD, not some jerk that gets off by duping me and everyone else that has it.
 
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I feel bad that I haven't stayed in touch on this forum but had to return to see what was going on when Benson posted about an intruder. Is there a specific topic I can read about to find out what he/she did or is that all deleted? I suppose it's pointless to read but I'm curious as to what someone would do and why.

I hope all of you are doing well otherwise.
Amy
 
Ok guys hold on one sec... it is possible that a very unlikely coiciddence has occured and this needs to be investigated further. We wanted to come out with the findings of our investigation.

I apologize for this... we did not feel right holding onto what we found for too long however we need to confirm what the truth is.
 
I dropped the ball everyone.

Peaches is not involved in this anymore than any of us are. She is probably the most affected as she was duped into receiving the fake text messages and transmitted them to us.

I am to blame for this as she has been wrongly and falsely accused of any wrong doing, I think it is only fair that I receive a punishment for this and this will be discussed and determined later. Please know for now that Peaches is totally innocent and you should direct any negative feelings you may have felt about her involvement my way as she is only a victim in this case!
 
IP addresses don't lie. I've been gone for a week as I felt the need to step away from some of the issues that were happening here. Anyways I've been privy to how this all went down and I wish I were surprised, but having been involved in the internet industry for nearly 15 years, sadly I'm not.

Re: Peaches. We may not always see eye to eye but I do feel incredibly sad that she got duped by this =(
 
I'm very grateful to see that Peaches isn't at fault, but still saddened that this had to even happen. I'm very disappointed right now, but also very relieved at the same time!
 
The IP address with Peaches was not a direct link. I took it to mean more than it actually did as I was scared based on everything that was going and wanted to resolve the issue and post something about it ASAP.
 
Golly! I am confused! It says at the top of the first post here that Peaches was not involved? But it seems she is? WTF!!???

I, like others, am rendered nearly speechless about this as I have no understanding of why someone would come on somewhere like here and lie about who they are??!!

I guess all of us will want some answers. I know I communicated with Peaches/Shantel or whomever regularly and thought she was a genuinely nice person - she certainly gave a lot of advice - does she even have Crohns?

I'm really curious how this may have gotten found out??!! And how someone can manage to do that!? I mean, who was that in Shantel's photos? And who was that on MGs Facebook page? And what was she thinking trying to organise a reunion??!!

Hopefully the mods will be able to keep us informed as this makes the whole internet communication thing kinda scary eh?

Has Shantel/Peaches been questioned/approached about this?
Urgh!
 
The mods were made aware of a weird linkage between lynn2 and muddin gal . I have personally been able to verify using 3 different methods that the creator of the Lynn2 account is still alive and is linked with muddin gal's account. Peaches was wrongly accused based on her role in dispursing received messages to everyone and some other factors that were not strong evidence. Based on my stop this charade and alert the members I looped Peaches in accidently. Further investigation has made it clear that not only was I wrong, but that she was probably duped more than any one else on the forum.


I do not want to get too specific in what exactly we did or found as it is important that we maintain our tools for catching people like this.
 
i just want to write as a regular member here for a minute, not as a member of staff.

Mike has done absolutely nothing wrong, no more than anyone else has. he was, we were all, taken in by a deceitful member, and in the panic, mistakes were made. Mike's first post in here was to save any further deceit/upset on the board... we've all been breaking our hearts over MG.

i hope you will all support me in saying that Mike should not take any punishment upon himself - he is the best Admin i've ever known, and has given us such an asset to our lives. this was a genuine error, and Shantel, when we have real clarity on everything, will receive a full and public apology in here.
 
I render no hard feelings towards Mike. I think it was an honest error and don't believe he should be burned at the stake. This is an ugly, messy situation and I'd hate to have to be the one doing damage control.
 
I was going to say the same thing Ding. I was going to say that mistakes can easily be made, especially in a haste. I do believe that all information should have been received before posting. At the same time, I don't blame you at all Mike. I know that when you found out everybody had been screwed over with this news, you were scared and paniced and wanted to let us know. People you care about and watch over on the forum. You wanted to get the information out there and let it be known before more could happen. I do feel for Shantel right now. I really do. Knowing her as she's been, I would say that she will not have hard feelings.
 
Agreed, not mikes fault at all, but we could all definately do wth some explanations as there is a LOT of confusion which is hard to deal with as we are all separated in different locations and the upset is hard to deal with via computer!
geez, I actually lit a candle and everything!
 
nope me either, mike and NONE of the other staff are at fault, its not like this was a spammer that got missed, we can all see that.
like you said, there is no way to no what is true in online communication.


edit:: will it be announced who it is?? ususlly i support anonymity in stuff like this, but in this case? i think we ALL have the right to know. just my opin.
 
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I feel really strange about this whole thing emotionally and will try to sort that out before I share my thoughts on this whole thing. I definitely was sucked in, I mean WTF! I even shaved my damned head and posted her banner!
 
kello82 said:
edit:: will it be announced who it is?? ususlly i support anonymity in stuff like this, but in this case? i think we ALL have the right to know. just my opin.
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I definately feel we all need as much truth as we can get here. It is so strange and I don't know how to feel at all!

GROUP HUG EVERYONE
 
kello82 said:
will it be announced who it is??
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I did in an earlier post but will post it again for those who missed it


The mods were made aware of a weird linkage between lynn2 and muddin gal . I have personally been able to verify using 3 different methods that the creator of the Lynn2 account is still alive and is linked with muddin gal's account. Peaches was wrongly accused based on her role in dispursing received messages to everyone and some other factors that were not strong evidence. Based on my stop this charade and alert the members I looped Peaches in accidently. Further investigation has made it clear that not only was I wrong, but that she was probably duped more than any one else on the forum.


I do not want to get too specific in what exactly we did or found as it is important that we maintain our tools for catching people like this.
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Thanks Mike, I am still confused, but I missed the post you have just quoted.
Understand that you can;t give all your clues away but do give us as much info as you can!
So, if Shantel is innocent I am feeling really bad for her right now :(
 
Jerman said:
I feel really strange about this whole thing emotionally and will try to sort that out before I share my thoughts on this whole thing. I definitely was sucked in, I mean WTF! I even shaved my damned head and posted her banner!
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I made the stupid banner! - blaaaa
 
hey all,
i just talked again to shantel. i have no idea whether MG is real or not - neither does she (although she has been getting text updates from someone). i think we reserve jumping to conclusions until the mods figure this one out.

in all fairness to shantel, who i know is a religious and deeply compassionate person, i think we should welcome her back with open arms. she may (or may not) have been duped. if she was, shame on who's ultimately behind it. nevertheless, she is deeply embarassed about the whole situation.

i'm standing behind her.
 
oh, im dumb. i knew it was lynn2 and muddin gal but i was wondering like WHO it is, what real person is it, but then realized that theres no way you guys know that. thats the whole way they were able to pull it off, so that was a not thought thru question, sorry.
 
omg shantel has the phone number right?? TRACE IT. take it to the cops. this is SO illegal right?!?
 
fenway1971 said:
hey all,
i just talked again to shantel. i have no idea whether MG is real or not - neither does she (although she has been getting text updates from someone). i think we reserve jumping to conclusions until the mods figure this one out.

in all fairness to shantel, who i know is a religious and deeply compassionate person, i think we should welcome her back with open arms. she may (or may not) have been duped. if she was, shame on who's ultimately behind it. nevertheless, she is deeply embarassed about the whole situation.



I'm beginning to feel the same way Fen. Its all a bit complicated though isn;t it? I mean she was communicating with SOMEONE right?
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fenway1971 said:
hey all,
i just talked again to shantel. i have no idea whether MG is real or not - neither does she (although she has been getting text updates from someone). i think we reserve jumping to conclusions until the mods figure this one out.

in all fairness to shantel, who i know is a religious and deeply compassionate person, i think we should welcome her back with open arms. she may (or may not) have been duped. if she was, shame on who's ultimately behind it. nevertheless, she is deeply embarassed about the whole situation.

i'm standing behind her.
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I think we're all behind her. I think that's what made this whole thing seem THAT much worse was thinking that she was involved and a fake. I know it sounds weird, but I can accept MG and Lynn2 being a hoax more than I can accept Peaches being fake. That just blew me away and made it SO awful for me. I was confused on how she could do that and how she pulled it off with everything we know about her.

Peaches, you will be welcomed back NO problem. And of course nobody can hold it against you for feeling for someone who you thougth was a real person with problems and connections. I feel for you for having being duped in such a fashion as well.

Thanks Fen for the posting
 
Imagine how violated she must feel if we all feel the way we do :( It has to be so much worse for her.
 
kello82 said:
omg shantel has the phone number right?? TRACE IT. take it to the cops. this is SO illegal right?!?
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My sentiments exactly.

Dunno, but someone has some balls to link themselves with a phone number....unless, of course they bought a pre-paid cell to partake in this little crime. Ugh, who knows.
 
Mike and all staff please hold your heads high with pride for the sanctuary you have created for us all to share. We all got duped, admins and mods thank god are not robots, you are able to be sucked in like the rest of us.
 
if its a prepaid then they should be able to find out who bought it i think. its a link at least, if i had that number in my hands i would absolutely take it to the cops
 
misscris said:
I think we're all behind her. I think that's what made this whole thing seem THAT much worse was thinking that she was involved and a fake. I know it sounds weird, but I can accept MG and Lynn2 being a hoax more than I can accept Peaches being fake. That just blew me away and made it SO awful for me. I was confused on how she could do that and how she pulled it off with everything we know about her.

Peaches, you will be welcomed back NO problem. And of course nobody can hold it against you for feeling for someone who you thougth was a real person with problems and connections. I feel for you for having being duped in such a fashion as well.

Thanks Fen for the posting
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That's exactly what I said earlier, too. I can fully accept that MG and Lynn were fake, but the thought of Shantel made my stomach turn. I feel a sense of relief knowing that so far she appears to be innocent and she has my support.
 
vshirey317 said:
My sentiments exactly.

Dunno, but someone has some balls to link themselves with a phone number....unless, of course they bought a pre-paid cell to partake in this little crime. Ugh, who knows.
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I really don't think whoever did this gave it much thought. As far as ramifications that is. You can trace someone from their IP address if you really want to. And they could trace the #, but will most likely turn up nothing.

Remember this in Mikes quote about what is going on " I have personally been able to verify using 3 different methods that the creator of the Lynn2 account is still alive and is linked with muddin gal's account. " So obviously they know "who" it is.
 
This whole thing is just so nasty. Also, if Peaches is geniuine then some psycho has been texting her - that is scary!
 
Impersonating someone is not a crime Kello.

Fenway. I am absolutely with you, we need to welcome Shantel back with open arms. She is a very caring person.

Re: Mike. Again having worked on this type of thing before, the rush is to get the intrusion stopped and sometimes there is indirect collateral damage. Amends can be made, I don't see a need to punish yourself for making a mistake in haste to protect us.

What I fear will happen now though, because of this event, and the linked event with Lynn is that we all will be more suspicious of new comers, especially those who may truly be critically ill. The internet is wonderful because it removes some barriers but also introduces others, it can be hard to authenticate someone unless you try and I am thankful for the people who did authenticate this falsehood.

I do hope as a community, we learn from this and that this brings up closer together. If nothing else this teaches us that we need to look out for one another.
 
fenway1971 said:
in all fairness to shantel, who i know is a religious and deeply compassionate person, i think we should welcome her back with open arms. she may (or may not) have been duped. if she was, shame on who's ultimately behind it. nevertheless, she is deeply embarassed about the whole situation.

i'm standing behind her.
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I made a mistake in accusing Peaches and I don't think anyone has any reason to be skeptical of her. She has provided all evidence that has been requested of her, which would be a stupid thing to do if she was involved in this situation as that individual would have no problems identifying her as being part of the deceit.
 
kello82 said:
if its a prepaid then they should be able to find out who bought it i think. its a link at least, if i had that number in my hands i would absolutely take it to the cops
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If done correctly Kello, prepaid cell phones can be made to be completely untraceable.
 
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omg shantel has the phone number right?? TRACE IT. take it to the cops. this is SO illegal right?!?
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you crack me up, kello. i'm sure the parties involved are doing whatever they can.
 
My guess is that "the person", Lynn and MG, one and the same, as well as Lynn's sister who came and delivered the news, sent the texts to a sympathetic Shantel. Shantel believed them to be genuine, just like us.

Shaz, no, Shantel is not involved, if you read the post you missed, that may be where you missed a bit? I'm not sure, but I just wanted you to know that, with the current evidence, she's clear. :)

Mike SHOULD NOT be punished. Do not beat yourself up Mike, I know you well enough to know that your mistake was just human error, a component of the issue and panic, just like the rest of us dealt with.
 
Ugh, so many things running through my head right now.

I know a few of us talked about throwing together $$$ to that MG could join us in DC. If she was too sick, we would've went and visited her. The thought crossed my mind that if she had passed, I wanted to try and make it to her funeral, if possible.
Tomorrow during the afternoon, I was going to go turn my yard into a big mud pit, have a fight with my boys and post the pictures for our MG.

Blaaaaaaah...
 
hey V, you do that naked and you might have some excited people. ;)

Sorry, had to go there. hahaha Ok back to the real discussion.
 
misscris said:
hey V, you do that naked and you might have some excited people. ;)

Sorry, had to go there. hahaha Ok back to the real discussion.
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:eek2:

::coughIpreferjellocough::
 
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::coughIpreferjellocough::
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I'm not picky. You can do either now. Actually, do the jello now. It appears theres no muddin Gal to contribute to.
 
misscris said:
I'm not picky. You can do either now. Actually, do the jello now. It appears theres no muddin Gal to contribute to.
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Know what sucks? I walked around an entire acre of my yard getting eaten up by bugs looking for the best "mud area". :ylol2: I have to laugh about it now.
 
vshirey317 said:
Ugh, so many things running through my head right now.

I know a few of us talked about throwing together $$$ to that MG could join us in DC. If she was too sick, we would've went and visited her. The thought crossed my mind that if she had passed, I wanted to try and make it to her funeral, if possible.
Tomorrow during the afternoon, I was going to go turn my yard into a big mud pit, have a fight with my boys and post the pictures for our MG.

Blaaaaaaah...
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i wonder if that's why the updates were increasingly pointing towards her dying... because the meet was being discussed, and funding for MG to go to it.
 
I hate to say it Kello, but Drew's right, there was technically nothing "illegal" by what this person did, nobody financially gained anything off us (to my knowledge). Immorally blatant and ethically frightening, yes, but nobody's going to jail over it. Hell better suits them anyways.
 
dingbat said:
i wonder if that's why the updates were increasingly pointing towards her dying... because the meet was being discussed, and funding for MG to go to it.
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Probably realized that she couldn't keep the charade going.
 
dingbat said:
i wonder if that's why the updates were increasingly pointing towards her dying... because the meet was being discussed, and funding for MG to go to it.
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Maybe.

I think when this sick moron gets tired of playing their role, they just find it simpler to finally kill them off.
 
Munchausen by Internet - yes a good fine Kello! :)
It kinda makes sense, gives a bit of an explanation as to why someone would do this. I've read a bit about Munchausens before with my Psych study and it usually involves someone making their kids sick to get attention.
I guess we can safely assume that 'MG' is in fact a sick person and maybe have a little sympathy for someone so screwed up? Maybe he/she does actuallu have Crohns and was genuine to start and then it all got out of hand? Who knows?

Like some have said though, I am really relieved to know that Shantel is genuine. Thinking she was a scam was far harder to believe than MG and hurt way more!

So Shantel, I am so sorry you were duped even more than the rest of us. You must be feeling really, really bad right now and I hope we can get it all sorted soon so you can come back!
 
I just keep thinking of that photo of her all covered in mud and smiling... and the details of her surgery with the wafer thing they placed on her brain tumor... This is just WRONG. Yuck. How anyone could find this funny or entertaining I have no idea. I am so, so happy and thankful that the mods found this out before she pretended to die. Which she would have and can you imagine how upset we all would have been?
 
BWS1982 said:
I hate to say it Kello, but Drew's right, there was technically nothing "illegal" by what this person did, nobody financially gained anything off us (to my knowledge). Immorally blatant and ethically frightening, yes, but nobody's going to jail over it. Hell better suits them anyways.
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True. No one contributed any money (thankfully).
 
I knew someone with Munchausen in real life and that crap is scary. She use to cut up her daughter's feet and tell people she had "surgery" and would even make her try to fake seizures -- as soon as the ambulance would show up she'd stop. Ugh...
 
yeah i see about the legality. but how come when people sue the can charge extra for emotional trauma then?? bogus.
i looked it up and couldnt find anything that says its illegal anyways.
 
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Emotional Capital. If anyone _did_ send her money that is a crime probably under something like wire fraud, however I am not a lawyer.
 
drew_wymore said:
Emotional Capital. If anyone _did_ send her money that is a crime probably under something like wire fraud, however I am not a lawyer.
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99% sure that this is what it would've fallen under, too.
 
I burned 4 candles down to wax on a plate. That was about $20.00 or so, since one of them was a giant one with 4 wicks, can I sue for that?
 
Usually emotional trauma suits/counts go along with another financial suit, often tacked on as a "bonus" of sorts. Like if someone lost $10K at work after being fired for Crohn's illegitimately, being unpaid for legit work/hours, AND was put through an inordinate amount of suffering and distress and trauma in the end. I think it's more rare for it to be the entire basis of a suit, as hinging it entirely on it would make everyone even more sue-crazy than they already are.

You could be cut off in traffic, and sue someone, you could have a long wait at the deli and sue someone. I'd be able to sue for the stress my moron nurses may have put me through almost risking my job, even though no monetary loss was technically incurred (thank God). Not to say this was that kind of "trauma" or to undermine all our pain and anguish here (especially yours Kelly) but that I believe using this to spearhead a lawsuit would be flimsy and futile. All we can do is believe in Karma. Unlike what Shaz said, I don't feel bad for this person really. There is something called a moral compass, and even if your needle is spinning like a fan blade, you are accountable for your actions.
 
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EXACTLY. io charege 100 milion for my emotional capital....holy hell.
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i miss you around here, kello. you freakin' crack me up.

i spent hours posting and writing limericks about MG and my billable rate is kinda high. who do i send my bill to?
 
bens, im totally not wronging you i cant decide if i feel bad for them even, but they could truly be sick. i dont regret my rather unpolite post in the lounge, but if they are truly sick then its not their fault. i think....like people with OCD, their complusions are not their fault. they cant just stop.
but should they be held accountable if their complusions hurt others? absolutely. but part of me would feel bad for a person who hurt another when they didnt even want to.

but at the moment? i still have a deep hate for this person. but .05% of me feels their plight.
 
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There is something called a moral compass, and even if your needle is spinning like a fan blade, you are accountable for your actions.
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:applause: Good words there Benson.
 
My issues with this person are pretty easy to understand, I think. I have to agree with Ben -- see, it's not as if this person "had a moment", snapped and did something stupid. They made a conscious decision to log onto our forum daily, pick up a phone and text, fabricate a heart wrenching story that brought many of us to tears, saw what it was doing to us, obviously got a sick gratification from it and continued with it. How long would it had gone on?

One word: sociopath
 
AAAAARGGGHHH! This is just so horrible. I hope noone gets stressed and makes themselves sick over it!
 
atcig said:
Imagine how violated she must feel if we all feel the way we do :( It has to be so much worse for her.
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Yep you got it and dont we already have violation issues with all of the hiney cams we are subjected to?:ylol2: :ylol2: :ylol2: :ylol2:
 
Hi everyone,

Just a reminder... the mods took action based on evidence we found. Please consider the reputation of the person posting before considering their "new evidence". This is especially true if any new members were to join and post something about this issue.

Good night everyone!
 
Hi Mike, sorry to be so dense, especially when you are so busy, but I am not sure what your post means? Is there someone lying about 'evidence' or something?
 
lol im confused too gf, but i was waiting to see if i was just being dense myself. hah.
 
Yes, that post confused me as well, but I am usually confused anyway so nothing new there!
 
hi GF... we're just trying to remind everyone that it's so easy to be taken in by a newcomer and their story... the person behind all this trauma may feel inclined to rejoin while us staff are trying to catch up on sleep, and could even go so far as to try & convince you all they're innocent... Mike's just giving you all a heads-up :)

but that doesn't mean we should treat seemingly genuine newcomers with our normal warm welcome... all newbies will be thoroughly screened from now on, once staff come online.
 
I think he means if someone were to come on here and say, Hey, there's new evidence that MG was real! We have to think about where the source is coming from.
 
I think we are all feeling pretty 'dense' at the mo kello.
I was not helped by the fact that i just spoke to my BFF on the phone and told her about it and she laughed! I was completely baffled by that! She said I shouldn;t be talking on the internet to people I don;t know and need to find a local support group. I guess someone who hasn;t any health issues can;t understand what a lifeline the internet can be sometimes.
Which also makes the whole MG thing so much worse because this person is preying on people who are often lonely and scared and now it will be hard to be able to trust anyone!
 
Hi everyone. First off - I want to apologize for being a part of *anything* that has caused you guys unnecessary stress. My intention was to be supportive in someone's desperate time of need - and I knew you guys were more than able to be supportive as well - I have seen it over and over again on this forum. You guys KNOW me...seriously - it is ME - I would not mean to cause anyone emotional distress - especially not to this magnitude - I would hope that no one would.

You guys can completely ignore what I am about to say - but I'm going to ask that you please stop this discussion until this thing has been completely resolved one way or the other. I am waiting on one last little bit of evidence before I feel 100% confident that this is what we are thinking it is. Since I am the one most at risk for being duped if in fact this is what it is, I ask that you guys just hang with me another 24 hours or so. If I get the proof I need - then we are all going to have to apologize. If I don't - then I just don't know what to think or say anymore. My trust in humanity will be permanently scarred.
 
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ah i understand now.

yeah shaz that was the whole of my rant in the lounge, to prey on people who are at/near rock bottom?? who already have enough trauma and hardship as people with diease?? that is way beyond twisted.
 
Ohhhhh 'kay thanks Ding, now I understand.
Shaz, I'm sorry that your friend laughed - it isn't funny at all, this disease is so isolating and finding this place is such a relief for all of us... to be tricked like that is just mean.
 
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