Homeopathic Experiment

[carrollco]

After spending the last 4 months on SCD, I decided to visit a homeopathic doc to the tune of 500.00 for one visit, one bottle of All In One vitamins and one small box of SyCircue. This doc was referred by several reputable people in town as being the best.

She wants me to visit her office 3 x weekly for Chiren an electronic means of eliminating blocked chi and inflammation and to stop by the Wellness Center to pick up, Folapro, Sygest, Sygest lotion to rub on my skin, Fat Digestion, and L-Glutamine powder.

OK, I am science minded so this was a big step for me to go outside the regular medical community. The doc gave me the usual story which may or may not be true about big pharma.

Then she gave me a box to do a GI panal in (poop test) and reminded me not to forget the 275.00 check that must accompany my poop AND a hair analysis kit that will cost 95.00 to have examined. Now the poop test must be done under a full moon because that's when parasites are most active and the hair analysis must be done within 24 hrs of hair washing.

Like I said, I am trying to keep an open mind. I am to return in 5 weeks.

Any thoughts since I have never heard of these treatments before? The full moon part tweaked my scam alert sensor, but I am a newbie when it comes to holistic medicine.









Louann Carroll
www.louanncarroll.com
Crohn's survivor and advocate
Trying the natural method that's not working so well right now. I DO NOT recommend this to anyone.

 

[If*]

Hello, hmm. I am all for investigating holistic but I feel you on the full moon part.
Things you could ask: what is the poop test looking for specifically and what is the treatment plan if things come back off according to them. Do they sale the products too? Then the hair test, what are they looking for.
Long ago many of the holistic docs could look in your eyes, check out your nails and smell your breath. By doing so they could tell how your digestion is, deficiencies, etc. They never would have asked for such a fee. It was often a 'donation'. Sounds like things have really changed.
I would research each test you mentioned and the proposed plan that chances are good you won't be told in advance.
I am a huge fan of the SCD - with diligence it can be very beneficial for some. Trader Joe's carries almond flour and Costco has big bottles of honey btw.
You sound like you are really fighting your illness - I would use caution when it comes to $$ and if it makes you question things or makes you feel like something is not adding up - trust your gut and check things out further.

I feel you ~ just listen to your little voice - if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, its a duck.

 

[mccindy]

Personally, I think it sounds like kind of a scam. Blocked chi? And there's a procedure for that? Doing a test under the full moon? I'm all for holistic care along with medical professionals, but this sounds like you are being taken for a financial ride. I hate to hear of people taking advantage of those who are desperate for relief from pain and chronic disease by charging high rates and telling them to avoid real medical care. There is a good balance between holistic care and professional medical care but this person does not sound legitimate to me.

 

[Trysha]

I agree with mccindy
Really sounds like a scam, and very expensive at that.
I would do a fast run from this person.
Does not sound legit to me..It's your money she is after.
It does not sound like a true practice of homeopathy.
There are a few good naturopaths and homeopathists but be very careful before parting with your money
Hugs and best wishes
Trysha

 

[carrollco]

I agree. It was the dancing parasites. I saw them doing the rumba in my stool. Lol Sadly, she came highly recommended.

Louann Carroll
www.louanncarroll.com
Crohn's survivor and advocate
Trying the natural method that's not working so well right now. I DO NOT recommend this to anyone.

 

[UnXmas]

I'm sceptical of anything remotely "alternative", so my predictable reply is biased from the start, but I agree it sounds like a scam - even without the full moon part.

My views on alternative medicine were the result of a lot of thorough trials in all sorts of alternative therapies - yes, I did try homeopathy, it did me no good, but cost me a lot of money. At least it didn't actually make me sicker like some alternative therapies did. (I also tried L-glutamine - no benefits there either.)

 

[Cat-a-Tonic]

Wow, you lost me at chi and had me facepalming at the full moon thing. I agree with everyone else, it sounds super scammy - the fact that she reminded you about payment shows where her true priorities lie, not in helping you but in lining her pocketbook. I'm all for stuff like yoga - I don't think it's going to help me find inner peace or anything, but it helps my body become stronger and my mind become less stressed so that I can better fight my illnesses. But that's about as holistic as I get - this full moon & chi stuff sounds like total BS to me. I believe it was Carl Sagan who said something along the lines of, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." If she can show you solid science explaining this stuff, then it might be okay to play along for awhile - but I'm guessing there is no science at all behind this stuff.

I know a guy who puts all his faith into crystals for healing. His wife had cancer, she beat cancer - he credits his crystals for that. Nevermind the fact that she had chemo and radiation and, you know, medicine - nope, it was the crystals. Riiiight. Of course it was. Now that I think about it, this guy does something with the full moon too - I think he said he puts his crystals outside under a full moon to "recharge" them - but ONLY if it's a clear night, if it's cloudy it won't work. Uh-huh, sure. I'm glad at least the guy's wife got proper treatment for her cancer - I think she's a more realistic person than he is.

 

[carrollco]

I guess I needed a good jolt of realism in the amount of several hundred dollars to make me realize that while some of these therapies work for some people, they don't work for me. Time to get my butt back to my docs. I am so not getting better. I guess I had to try, but now it is done. The last month hasn't been fun with this disease.

Louann Carroll
www.louanncarroll.com
Crohn's survivor and advocate
Trying the natural method that's not working so well right now. I DO NOT recommend this to anyone.

 

[rygon]

The vitamins were most probably the cheap ones you get in supermarkets anyway.

I think the only way what she was saying would ever work was due to the placebo effect, which you can get just from visiting the doctors (a much cheaper option).

 

[VeganOstomy]

The problem with these scams (homeopathy, balancing chi, magic herbs, etc) is that apart from the obvious waste of money, they could delay you from getting proper treatment and may end up furthering your disease. I learned the hard way wasting time on alternative treatments and ended up with such a damaged colon that it had to be removed. I chased wishful thinking for years when I should have looked at treatment that are supported by evidence. Placebo can help with some things, but it won't treat IBD...

Good luck.

 

[rygon]

I think a lot of them believe in their "powers", rather than taking advantage.

For instance, I think homoeopathy works because of the placebo effect, rather than what's inside the tablet (or not). But if you believed in the "rubbish" and saw people getting better, then why wouldn't you believe yourself. The same goes with acupuncture.

 

[carrollco]

Yep. Just made a mess of myself. Hopefully I will get Remicade approval soon. Stupid idea, but I had to try.

Louann Carroll
www.louanncarroll.com
Crohn's survivor and advocate. Humira quit on me, tried the natural route that cost me 500.00. Will stay on SCD. Currently on prednisone, waiting an approval for Remicade. 6mp is a no go as it hurt my liver and I am allergic to aspirin which rules out mesalamine. Biologics and prednisone are all I have left.

 

[Kero]

I think we just get to the point that we will try anything at all to get better. Sounds like a scam to me when she continuously reminded you that you have to pay up to have her services

 

[carrollco]

It was the dancing moonlight bacteria.

Louann Carroll
www.louanncarroll.com
Crohn's survivor and advocate. Humira quit on me, tried the natural route that cost me 500.00. Will stay on SCD. Currently on prednisone, waiting an approval for Remicade. 6mp is a no go as it hurt my liver and I am allergic to aspirin which rules out mesalamine. Biologics and prednisone are all I have left.

 

[Kero]

It was the dancing moonlight bacteria.

Yeah, that too, lol

 

[Garbanzo]

I wouldn't just blow off homepaths! A good friend went to one in Mexico for psoriasis and to the amazement of his team of western docs.....he has been completely clear for over 9 months!! So I asked him to call the clinic in Mexico about crohns, however all they could offer for crohns was probiotics n diet changes.

So I say ask around n see what conditions they can give referrals for.....by referrals I mean patients that have actually gotten better

 

[VeganOstomy]

I wouldn't just blow off homepaths!

Nothing homeopathy claims has ever been proven... that water has "memory", that diluting something in water makes it STRONGER (if you shake it long enough), that giving a substance which causes a symptom in person A will make the same symptom in person B go away.

Placebo has a pretty high success rate - about the same as homeopathy, but there isn't anything that the pills or potions are doing to you - it's in your head.

Some people do get better after taking homeopathic remedies, some people get better doing nothing too. But nobody has ever proved that homeopathy works better than placebo or as claimed. It's snake oil (diluted to 200C potency, of course :lol2

 

[Axelfl3333]

The homeopathic nhs hospital stopped,and went back to normal treatment because the homeopathic treatment didn't,t work,says it all I,m afraid

 

[carrollco]

My co-worker came in today and informed me that his chiropractor was willing to give me a fecal transplant and that it was a 100% cure. He's lucky I didn't prednisone rage him. Everyone has a cure. Sheesh.

Louann Carroll
www.louanncarroll.com
Crohn's survivor and advocate. Humira quit on me, tried the natural route that cost me 500.00. Will stay on SCD. Currently on prednisone, waiting an approval for Remicade. 6mp is a no go as it hurt my liver and I am allergic to aspirin which rules out mesalamine. Biologics and prednisone are all I have left.

 

[rygon]

The homeopathic nhs hospital stopped,and went back to normal treatment because the homeopathic treatment didn't,t work,says it all I,m afraid

was this the place

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[VeganOstomy]

My co-worker came in today and informed me that his chiropractor was willing to give me a fecal transplant and that it was a 100% cure. He's lucky I didn't prednisone rage him. Everyone has a cure. Sheesh.

If there's one thing I learned about Chiropractors is that they are ALWAYS confident that they will CURE you of ANYTHING. :ybatty:

Not sure why he'd agree to do a fecal transplant though! LOL oo:

 

[mccindy]

That's a new one! A chiro giving a fecal transplant? Seems a bit outside the scope of practice :eek2: lol!

I haven't seen a chiro in years because of my back surgeries, but I've had some during casual conversations tell me that all I have to do is come see them and they'll fix all my GI problems and headaches with an adjustment or two.

 

[jwfoise]

It was the dancing moonlight bacteria.

Now I'm picturing bacteria going for a moonlit cruise down my colon. Rather romantic really.

 

[carrollco]

Seriously, dumb idea I had and now I am paying the price. Glad my bacteria is dancing, cause I can't get off the couch, and my family hates me because of my prednisone rage. *sigh* Two more days to Remicade.

 

[jwfoise]

Hang in there carrollco

 

[Garbanzo]

Seriously, dumb idea I had and now I am paying the price. Glad my bacteria is dancing, cause I can't get off the couch, and my family hates me because of my prednisone rage. *sigh* Two more days to Remicade.

Ask your doc for low dose of xanax....it helps with pred. issues. Just don't take it more than you need to as it can be very addicting!