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How did we let this thread fall to the second page. Clearly we need a little laugh. Got this from a friend who doesn't necessarily agree with my diet.

For those of you who watch what you eat, here's the
final word on nutrition and health. It's a relief to know the truth
after all those conflicting nutritional studies.

1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer
heart attacks
than Americans.

2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart
attacks than
Americans.

3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer
fewer heart
attacks than Americans.

4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer
heart attacks
than Americans...

5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of
sausages and
fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.


CONCLUSION:Eat and drink what
you like.Speaking English is
apparently what kills you.
 
I need to buy a new thermometer. I've had a couple of the digital ear ones now and simply am not impressed. Any suggestions?
 
OMG, that is hilarious... Now, Crohnsinct, how is it that all the way in CT you were aware of these goon sacks?!?!? :lol:
 
I reckon she googled the goon Tess! :rof:

Now y'all would know the Game of Fortune...

Well I think you should arrange this for your next party. All you need is a hills hoist and a goon sack and voila! Goon of fortune! Now this is real classy...

[youtube]vqFFyW01FXA[/youtube]

Ahahahahaha
 
I can't help but LMAO every time I see it!! :rof: I can't wait for a bridal shower so I can use it as a game!! :D
 
Tesscorm said:
OMG, that is hilarious... Now, Crohnsinct, how is it that all the way in CT you were aware of these goon sacks?!?!? :lol:
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I thought this was a don't ask don't tell forum! So while we are asking how is it you had that video of the women so handy? Which one are you?

I think I would prefer the games with the men (that didn't come out the way I meant it):smile: the womens game looks like you could get hurt!:eek2:
 
Don't you all love texts that start with 'mom, I'm okay now...' :facepalm: I don't know how your phones work but I get an alert with the first few words of a text on my screen as texts come in. So, I was in a meeting with three other people and I'm seeing...

"mom, I'm okay now..."

next text... " :( "

... "I took a pass and..."

... "Have most movement..."

Needless to say, I have no idea what I agreed to in the meeting! :rof:

Finally spoke with him and he thinks he popped his shoulder out (and back in) again last night at his hockey game. 'Took a pass and tried to shoot' and felt a pop and sharp pain. Says he's in lots of pain now, but he can move it. :(

It's so hard when you're not with them... have sent him about 10 txts with instructions 'Ask Dr for a sling to take weight off', 'Remember no nsaids! If he says it's okay with remi, tell dr it's because of crohns not remicade', 'since you're there, ask for the flu shot'.... :lol:

Now, question for you guys... I was going to tell Stephen to let the doctor know that he does not have full immunity to mumps and if they have some sort of 'at risk' notification list shud there be an outbreak at school. But, then I was worried if Stephen's attendance at the school could cause a problem since he isn't completely immune. Would the school restrict him in some way because he could pass it on??? Any idea?
 
Ok guys I have a question, so I knew fecal calprotectin results varied by age:

2-9 years old/upper limit 166/ug/g of feces
10-59 years old/upper limit 51/ug/g of feces
>60 years old/upper limit 112/ug/g of feces

But has anyone seen references ranges other than this? I've been having issues and the GI did an FC test(which really didn't seem related to my issues) and the result came back 143 but the nurse said that was in normal range because upper limit was 163.

I'm a little confused now, since we keep hearing from GIs that they like to see their "IBD" patients below 150 or even below 300 but below 50 is normal and since it is unlikely we are all using the same lab, so the <50 seemed to be standard.

I do understand that different labs have different variations and I'm going to pick up a copy now and will post what it says.

Edit to add: Umm yeah I know this is a weird place for this post but it isn't about my kid or even IBD.
 
I'll look at Jack's tonight I seem to remember it having a normal range on the sheet but we were told 160ish for upper limit of normal as well. So Jack's last 2 first was 90 and last was 293 in September. GI's comment "I'm not too concerned since normal is 160 and below"
 
I would like to think that the difference is the labs that are conducting the tests, you know...using varying reference ranges or different units of measure but C's was done by labcorp and so was mine.

Anyway, I wasn't expecting the FC level to tell anything since my issue seems to be this build up of chest pressure and an inability to burp(I have never been able to burp) followed by tachycardia, upwards of 150. The first time it happened I went to the ER because I had no idea what was happening, blood pressure was normal, EKG normal just tachycardia. I had the GI px some nexium and that is helping with the pressure/burping some but I'm still have bouts of it that end in tachycardia. I've also worn a heart monitor(GP ordered it) still waiting on results. Oh and lastly my heartrate now stays above 100(as low as 106 and high as 122)between the higher attacks.
 
Clash

Our Normal range is 19.5 to 50 ug/g

Sarah last test was 192.3

I going to type out below the notes written on the test results

Median values in patients with symptomatic colorectal cancers 350 ug/g

Active, symptomatic inflammatory bowel disease 200 - 40,000 ug/g

Values above 100 mcg/g inidicate SIGNIFICANT inflammation in the gastrointestinal tract. Etiology could be associated with the following: IBD, infection, NSAIDS use, polyps, adenomas or colorectal cancer. Calprotectin may also be elevated in children with chronic diarrhea secondary to cow's allergy or multiple food allergies. Further investigative procedures are necessary to determine the cause inflammation.

Whether inflammation or neoplastic, the cause of elevated calprotectin MUST be ascertained by endoscopy or radiography. If these evaluations do not yield signs of overt disease, other tests may be considered - intestinal dysbiosis assessment - allergy antibody assessment - celiac panel - comprehensive parasitologist profile.
 
Thanks, Catherine. I had the report faxed to my GP so I could go pick it up. The nurse said she was faxing it right then but I drove to the GP during errands and no copy of the report sent yet!

Ughhh...frustrated. All the ones I have found have said <50 but I found this on labcorp testing site:

Specimen:
Stool (unpreserved, random)

Volume:
1 g

Minimum Volume:
0.5 g

Container:
Clean screw-capped plastic vial

Collection:
Do not contaminate outside of container; do not overfill container. Loose stools are acceptable.

Storage Instructions:
Samples are stable for 11 days ambient or at 2°C to 8°C. Stable for one year at -20°C. Temperature should not exceed 37°C during shipment. Ship refrigerated at 2°C to 8°C.

Causes for Rejection:
Serum or plasma received; stool contaminated with urine; sample outside of the container; specimen older than 11 days of collection before tested; samples taken from diapers unless portion taken has not been in contact with diaper material; preserved stool received

Reference Interval:
0-120 μg/g
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So does the part I have bolded above "Reference Interval" refer to the reference range labcorp uses or is that referring to something else?
 
I just looked and I have the same values and info as Catherine.

I would think it's the reference range Labcorp uses as "normal".
 
Mehita, when you stated:

I would think it's the reference range Labcorp uses as "normal".
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Are you referring to my post #1729 and the "Interval Range"? Or my post #1725 where nurse said labcorp listed reference range as upper limit 163?

By the way it seems all of these labs are using μg/g which is the same as mcg/g so how can one lab state that anything over hundred requires further investigation and another saying anything below 163 is normal. Better yet how can C's labcorp ref range normal be <50 and my labcorp ref range be upper limit 163?
 
I was referring to 1729. Okay, don't quote me on this but here's a thought...

I know sometimes DS's celiac labs get sent to special laboratories and if I understand it right each lab (meaning facility) has a different range of what is considered normal based on a database of all the blood work they've ever run for that specific test over time in their facility. So when we changed docs and he used a different lab/facility we got a different set of ranges.

Also, could the ranges be different for you two due to age or sex? Grasping at straws here, sorry.
 
Mehita,

I think you might be right with the first, the hospital I used sends to either quest labs or labcorp. I would think insurance may factor into which is used but then C uses labcorp and the nurse told me my order was for labcorp. I just happened to notice a sign in the lab that said state whether you/ins prefer labcorp or quest labs. So I got to digging and found this from Quest Labs website(I don't have the copy of mine yet, the GI never faxed it to GP) but:

Calprotectin, Stool


Test Code

16796

CPT Code(s)

83993

Includes

Calprotectin, Stool

Preferred Specimen(s)

1 g Stool unpreserved collected in a Sterile leak-proof container

Minimum Volume

0.3 g

Alternative Specimen(s)

1 g Random liquid stool collected in a Sterile leak-proof container

Collection Instructions

Collect undiluted feces in clean, dry sterile leak proof container. Do not add fixative or preservative.

Transport Temperature

Frozen

Specimen Stability

Room temperature: 11 days

Refrigerated: 11 days

Frozen: 1 year

Methodology

Immunoassay

Performing Laboratory

Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute

33608 Ortega Highway

San Juan Capistrano, CA 92690-6130

Setup Schedule

Set up: 2 days a week a.m.; Report available: 3 day

Limitations

NSAIDs may cause elevated results.

Reference Range(s)

≤162.9 µg/g
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Notice the bolded part, so had we used labcorp(I'm assuming we didn't at this point because I don't have the copy to verify for certain but their ref range is <120) then my fecal calprotectin would have been elevated and according to Catherine's lab report my result would
inidicate SIGNIFICANT inflammation in the gastrointestinal tract
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but since the hospital apparently used Quest labs I'm normal.

Ok that freaks me out just a bit...just saying. They are all using the same measurements. And I do understand the reference range being set by a sampling in their test subjects but there are numerous studies that list the <50 result for normal reference range.

They do this just to make us more nutso right, I mean what other reason could they have. And if C has a test come back 163 from labcorp and they say it is high, I'm going into to my quest lab bubble and saying "No way Jack, that is normal!"
 
True story. A nurse at our IBD center is the center coordinator. She is involved in everything. She spoke at the IBD Conference thingy they had for the patients and parents. She said many years ago one of her first nursing jobs was in a ped surgical unit. Most patients they saw once but the IBD patients they called frequent flyers. They didn't like taking care of the ped patients. Not because of the kids but because of the parents. She said they were all crazy. It was the one thing they all had in common. What is it about IBD that makes these parents crazy?

Fast forward and she is working at the IBD center. Her daughter is a patient of the director. He tells her your daughter has Crohns. She replies, "oh you must be mistaken, that can't be, because I am not crazy". She says, "I am now".

So yes Clash! They do this to us to make us crazy!
 
I'm not sure what to even do with this result, I have yet to find a study that doesn't state some type of secondary testing needs to be performed if the result comes back above the norm. The stated norms I've found in studies are <50 and <65.

It's not like I can go to the GI and say "Excuse me but I'm an IBD nut and research most of my day away and though I know that paper says anything below 163 is normal but ummm it's wrong!" I'm just confused, my little penguin, Dusty, what is y'alls take on it?
 
I say let sleeping dogs lie .

The reference range differs more than likely because the equipment they use to measure it may be calibrated differently etc...
Meaning their reference range corresponds to a different reference range at a different faculty because of the equipment or chemicals etc that facility uses to measure the test.
Most studies would state used method xyz to measure it per astm std abc .
There are industry standards for everything from equipment to chemical to the method used.

So in a nut shell in this case trust the results are normal .
 
Clash said:
It's not like I can go to the GI and say "Excuse me but I'm an IBD nut and research most of my day away and though I know that paper says anything below 163 is normal but ummm it's wrong!"
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Hmmm, we may not say it but how often have we thought it?!?:rof:

In any case, while I couldn't find a specific answer for you, I did find an interesting link. Was going to post it even before I read your comment about researching all day! :lol: It's a bit long so I haven't read it all but it certainly did pique my interest. Enough that, I'm going away tomorrow and, my thought as I skimmed it, was 'oh, let me print this so I can read it while away!'!!! :ylol2: How sad is that?

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1097/00054725-200606000-00013/full


(So, I may not be around for the next week or so... although, I'm sorry, I have been MIA lately... have just been so busy :eek2:)
 
Hey Clash,

I well hear you about the nutso side of things! :lol: And as hard as it can be not to compare different labs and then start doubting that what you see is a true representation of results I agree with mlp with letting sleeping dogs lie and take it on face value but that does not mean you can’t question it.

As has been said, pathology companies use different equipment and they also set their own reference ranges/intervals based on their own data. In doing so they need to ensure that the protocols they have set up in establishing that data are an accurate and consistent representation across all their labs.

The result before you has to be taken into context along with all the other clinical and objective data your GI has in front of him about you. I personally don’t see that there would be anything untoward in saying to the GI that you find the results concerning and would like some clarification and reassurance about them as your son has Crohn’s and you have dealt with FC results for some time now both in the laboratory and research sense. Go on to say that during this time you have never seen reference ranges akin to those that this lab gives and therefore it makes me uneasy and questions as to whether I need further tests done. If this is the lab that the GI regularly uses then he will be use to their ranges and will have established a feel for what he sees on paper and what he sees sitting in front of him, asking the question will either validate your concerns or allay them so it a win/win in my book.

Dusty. xxx
 
So... I was just thinking, DS has had 3 MRE's and each has been a nightmare. We KNOW he has small bowel disease. After skimming Tess's link and the bit about use of Fecal Cal in kids, I'm wondering why we can't just use Fecal Cal as his marker. It appears to be a good indicator for him and it would be so much easier than contrast. He has to have some pretty deep emotional scars by now, KWIM?

I know MRE has it's place, especially for small bowel, but it can really take a toll on a kid too, especially after our last experience.
 
Thanks, My Little Penguin and Tesscorm. I'm going to read through that article. I found some more info as well, so one uses immunoassay and the other Enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) not sure if that is the same thing or not. But I did read an article from the FDA about the standards and how the reference ranges should be dependent on certain things it was really interesting too.

My only other concern is that I know I have repeatedly told people on the forum the norm for FC is <50 with the addendum that GI's don't mind seeing 150 in IBD patients(our wiki also addresses this in a similar manner) but if member are using labs with different values then I am giving out bad info as is the wiki.

I'm all for taking it as normal as long as my symptoms subside, although I don't think the FC test is appropriate for what I have been experiencing anyway. And I'm not so concerned that I am dealing with CD it is other nefarious things that most worry me since my symptoms don't line up with most of the ones people talk about on here.
 
That is basically the article I was reading, I noted this:

A cutoff value of 30 mg/L (150 µg/g) for
fecal calprotectin gives 100% sensitivity and 97% specificity
for discriminating between patients with CD and IBS.
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and this:

A cutoff value of 30 mg/L (150 mg/g) for
fecal calprotectin gives 100% sensitivity and 97% specificity
for discriminating between patients with CD and IBS.suggested cutoff for a positive test was 10 mg/L. With the newer assay, the suggested upper limit of normal has been
changed to 50 µg/g. Husebye et al17 demonstrated good
correlation between the newer and older calprotectin assay
when stool samples were analyzed with both methods.
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But the older method was referring to measurements using 10 mg/L instead of µg/g and I assume another standard to testing that wasn't immunoassay or ELISA because I don't know if they are the same or different.
 
Mehita, C's disease is located in his TI at his IC valve and FC has been really reliable for him so far. In that, when he was in the hospital in February, he had FC stool test and colonoscopy the same day and MRE the following day and the GI said the FC results went right along with what he had seen in the scope, on biopsies and on the MRE. But giving the choice I would wrangle C back into the MRE if we were experiencing problems and the option was giving...he's a little scarred from it as well though.
 
Dusty, thanks for the info, I missed your post some how up until now as well as Mehita's post.

I think I may go with the tactic you laid out. Besides this GI wants to put me on levsin for IBS, I generally have a bm once a week, I can't imagine what slowing my already slow gut would do, plus it says to discuss with your doc if you have rapid heartrate or arrhythmias and I'm still trying to find out if that is why I am having these tachycardia episodes.
 
Yes Jack's was done at Quest, finally pulled it and it does say < OR = 162.9 mcg/g but this is really helpful as it sounded like this was going to be a test we will be using more since his bloodwork at same time showed normal levels.
I had always heard the < 50 as normal as well. Thanks Tess and MLP for posting those links
 
Dusty, I can't be sure but I don't think so. I've been to the ER twice with tachycardia, both times EKG and blood pressure were normal. It wasn't until the second time that I put together that before the tachycardia starts I keep feeling the urge to burp and can't and there is a build up of pressure in my breadbasket(not sure the med term for that area). They also ran blood work and I assume checked HBG but also sure they didn't check ferritin. The only thing low they said was postassium, the first visit, but only slightly so and they didn't think it caused the issue. There have been more tachycardia incidents since then that I didn't go to the ER for. They don't seem to be tied to anxiety and happen after my largest meal, supper. They also all coincide with this pressure and feeling like if I could burp it would ease. And that is true when I am able to burp then the heart rate starts going down.

Now isn't that the craziest thing you have ever heard? Non burping tachycardia...I'm a test case for the oddities on that one.

Even on nexium, I have acid that at night that comes up in my throat and mouth, the bed is elevated but no help. Kinda at a loss.

Oh and finally, the breadbasket area(I've had my gall bladder removed) is tender when pressed most all the time but especially so during the episodes.

Wow...now I kind of sound like C with the "some times my big toe hurts and I think it affects my swallowing" but that's where I'm at right now.

They have me on Ativan and Klonopin to control the heart rate but even on those my rate is usually over 100, any where 106-122 or 25.

Sorry I put a damper on our usually funny thread guys.
 
There is a definite link between some gastrointestinal and cardiac disorders Clash.

http://bjcardio.co.uk/2009/07/cardiac-manifestations-and-sequelae-of-gastrointestinal-disorders/

Roemheld syndrome is another connection between the two but not much discussed in medical circles these days.

The only reason I know is that my boss, although she has no other symptoms, just can’t burp, ever! So we were wasting time at work one day and doing a lot of googling! :lol:

Dusty. xxx
 
Thanks so much Dusty, I appreciate that article. The ER docs, the GI and to some extent my GP look at me funny when I tell them it starts with pressure/not being able to burp and ends with tachycardia. I'm printing this.
 
Just the 24 hour monitor and the results came back today as normal yet the doc wanted me to start on Toprol not because I have high blood pressure(generally 115/68) but because it can slow your heart rate. I'm not comfortable starting a med without knowing why it is actually happening. I've made an appt. with GP(he had his med asst to call with results and that he had called in a px for Toprol) on Monday to discuss this. I'm thinking of going to a cardiologist to make sure all is well.
 
Clash said:
Just the 24 hour monitor and the results came back today as normal yet the doc wanted me to start on Toprol not because I have high blood pressure(generally 115/68) but because it can slow your heart rate. I'm not comfortable starting a med without knowing why it is actually happening. I've made an appt. with GP(he had his med asst to call with results and that he had called in a px for Toprol) on Monday to discuss this. I'm thinking of going to a cardiologist to make sure all is well.
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Absolutely go to the cardiologist! I spent a couple of days in the hospital in May after arriving at the hospital thinking I was having a heart attack. They ran a ton of tests, I was seen by the cardiologist on staff there and then referred to an outside cardiologist who did further testing (and some repeat testing).

Because things like tachycardia come irregularly a 30 day monitor would be better. You don't actually wear the monitor 24/7, but instead when you feel it come on, you grab it and put it on your heart, it takes a reading and then you phone that reading in (it was actually quite interesting).

The cardiologist seems to think my problem has been with me most of my life. I had a doctor diagnose me with a heart murmur at age 16, but no other doctor has ever been able to hear it. Instead what they have discovered (with the advancement in technologies) is my heart tends to work really fast (tachy) and then slows down. Sometimes it adds a beat, sometimes it skips one... which I thought was quite interesting... I've always considered myself to be "ambitiously lazy" - you know, hurry up and get everything done, so I can lay around and do nothing (though I rarely get to the do nothing part, it is always my goal, laughs...)

The Toprol can help (I'm on something similar, another beta blocker), but mine has come with some weight gain :( ugh....

I wouldn't hesitate with making the appointment. Good luck!!
 
Thanks for the info, ChampsMom. I am going to see a cardiologist, now to find one. I'm from a fairly small town so I'm thinking I may go to a larger city(with a larger selection).

Thanks for all the advice guys, my husband felt I needed to see a cardiologist as well. When he arrived home from work I informed him it was settled the committee had decided I needed to see a cardiologist!:)
 
Regarding the FC test, what we've found helpful about it is not whether it is high or not, but whether it is high for her. Before treatment it was in the 700s, then midway through treatment (EEN) it had dropped to the 400s. With her last supposed flare, it was in the 50s, so we were able to realize it wasn't actually a flare... Sadly it takes over 2 weeks to get the results, but when the other tests never show an abnormality, it is good to have something that is reliable to show whether she is having inflammation.
 
That is how it is used with C as well and has the added benefit of correlating with MRE and scope done at the same time.

As for me, it was the first FC test, so I have no baseline and the confusion of normal reference ranges only added to the mystery. My husband has suggested getting the FC done by the GP from labcorp and seeing what the result is. If it came above 50 on that one where the level is <50 then imaging may be in order.
 
I am glad you are going to make an appt to see a cardiologist. Sounds like that is what you need. I had a 14 day heart monitor test for heart palpitations a while back. They made me wear it 24 hours a day for two weeks. Wasnt to bad. they found out I get extra beats. thank goodness it is benign.
 
So... my dog. :yfaint: I don't know how many of you will remember but our dog, close to two years ago, was diagnosed with colitis. Weird, I mean how much IBD and such can one household manage but such is life... dog got better, etc., etc. Sadly, she passed away from old age last year. Spring came and we got a new puppy in April(ish). Hubby bought him from some bigtime breeder (so you'd expect all would be good :)), actually had him shipped up to Toronto from Tennessee!! Anyway, this puppy arrives skinny as can be!! Literally nothing but skin and bones. :eek: And then diarrhea every day... off to the vet, lots of tests, all is good... just a skinny dog in a skinny breed adjusting to new food, etc. Months go by, dog is still skinny as can be... hubby's feeding him all kinds of special foods - low fat, high fat, high protein, easily digestible, probiotics, dry, cans, once a day, three times a day, etc. Dog has lots of energy but you can literally count every bump on his spine! And still D most of the time. Back to the vet AGAIN, now testing for h.pylori, giardia, etc. AGAIN but vet doesn't really think that's it (as we've done countless rounds of antibiotics)... we now have two probable diagnoses... IBD or Pancreatic Insufficiency, both chronic, lifelong illnesses! Seriously!!!! WTH?!?!? :eek: What is with our household!?!?!?

Of course, now I'm worried sick about Stephen catching something!!! I asked the vet and he confirmed that, yes, it is possible for Stephen to catch something (if its a bug). I think Stephen's GI already thinks I'm a PITA mom (pain-in-the-ass for the new parents here ;)), can you imagine what he's going to think when I call to ask him if I should be concerned about Stephen being around the dog?!?!? And, Stephen's coming home this weekend for his infusion... :eek:

And, then to top it all off... this is the same vet that treated our last dog for colitis, when I asked about Stephen catching something from the dog, the vet asked if Stephen had ever been tested for H.Pylori because, apparently, it can be transmitted from human to dog and given our history (like we're bad doggy parents for letting our dogs catch things from our family!!).... :yfaint:

Oh well, at least I was able to discuss every test and result with ease at the vet's office, I was even able to suggest a couple he said he'd have to ask the specialist about! :lol:

As Dusty would say... onwards and upwards! :D
 
Mehita - not sure about the c.diff. I did ask him about c.diff. specifically and he said that dogs do not catch c.diff. but... I googled it and, yes, dogs can have c.diff. Who needs university degrees? Just google it! :lol:

Kimmidwife - yes, dog is on probiotics... not our son who has crohns but, yes, our dog gets powdered probiotics mixed into every meal! :yfaint:

Sometimes, if you don't :ylol2:, you will just :cry:

:ybatty:

In my google searches... http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e7396

hmmm... something to ask the GI??? :lol:
 
Just to make life interesting... the dog's probiotics were in little foil pouches (a pouch is to be opened and sprinkled on each meal). Not sure how many we had but... this morning, the dog somehow found the pouches and ate them all! :ywow: Not sure if too much probiotic is harmful??? And, hubby now worried about how he's going to digest the foil!!!

Anyone remember the dumb but really happy puppy, think it was on Looney Tunes cartoons... I swear we have the live thing! This dog may be starving to death, may be skeletal, may be fighting all kinds of bugs but he has NO IDEA there's anything wrong with his life!! The dog is constantly happy as can be and has so much energy that when he's indoors, it's like a tornado has come through the house! I can totally picture him finding all these foil packages and thinking "ooohhh, a new shiny toy!!! Slurp, slurp!" :lol:
 
Oh my! This a.m. my psychotic dog ate an apple cinnamon Nutri Grain bar wrapper and all.

I know, I know Nutri Grain bars are not a clean food BUT I bought a box when our French exchange student was here as she would eat nothing but the processed stuff. We had one last bar left and my girls were fighting over who gets it because clearly there won't be another one in this house in a long time. Guess the dog settled that fight. They are going to be mighty pissed at the pooch when they get home.
 
Wow, you have definitely done something right when the kids are fighting for a Nutrigrain bar!!! :D

Just reminded me of some Jimmy Kimmel 'challenges' - parents told their kids they'd eaten all the kids' halloween candies and then recorded their reactions! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOlpdd7y8MI
 
The next Kimmel challenge:

"Tell Tesscorm and Crohnsinct you drank all their wine"


OMGosh that boy who said I just want you to be happy brought me to tears.
 
I know :) some of those kids were so cute and funny! He's done lots of these 'challenges', some of the others were giving kids some really awful Christmas gift (ie rotten banana, etc.) or after one week of summer vacation, waking them up and telling them they were late for the first day of school! :eek: Poor kids... but good for a laugh! :devil:
 
:ylol:Last year my puppy ate one of my Australian Pearl earrings. I tell ya that was one expensive **** the little bugger had the next day.:stinks:
 
:eek::eek:That's horrible!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek:
Tell kids you ate there candy and then laugh.
No wonder this country's messed up.:ybatty:
That's just as bad as the dad that said he take his little kids to Disney.
Drove them around and around and pulled up to a burnt out warehouse and screamed NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know what the kids did, I was laughing to hard by the end of the story.:rof:
 
Okay, question about my dog and Stephen... so far, parasite testing negative, still waiting on pancreatic testing but tests have shown high level of gastric bacteria - vet is thinking possible SIBO. My question... if the dog has SIBO, can this affect Stephen? From the little research I've done, I don't think so but just wanted to verify here (I know some of you have experience with SIBO)... :)
 
Btw Disney is getting rid of the guest access pass .
They have a new system instead but could spell more trouble for crohn's kids
 
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ooops, sorry I don't know how to make these smaller!:eek:
 

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Crohnsinct, I tried looking for it but couldn't find it. Could still be in there for all I know. Then some day he might end up with a colitis dx.
 
What loser, complains to his children about how unfair is that he has being 100% of the driving for 10 years and it costing him too much in fuel. Can't remember a single 5am drop of for swimming.

That's right same loser who thinks it his ex wife should deliver and pick up said children as he has lost his licence for speeding.

Good one dad!
 
Just for you Catherine....saw this on Craigs list once and thought it was hysterical...for those who don't know, Craigs list is an online advertising site like the old fashioned classified ads in the old fashioned newspapers.

For Sale
Wedding dress, size 12.
Worn once by mistake.
 
crohnsinct said:
Just for you Catherine....saw this on Craigs list once and thought it was hysterical...for those who don't know, Craigs list is an online advertising site like the old fashioned classified ads in the old fashioned newspapers.

For Sale
Wedding dress, size 12.
Worn once by mistake.
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:ylol2:
 

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